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Oct 2 2012, 05:19 AM Post #1 |
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I think I debunked the M12 theory being during the Buu saga. When Goku killed Kid Buu, Vegeta still had his halo. Yama bend the rules to get Vegeta back to Earth and his body back. Goku was the only one that knew about the fusion dance in the Buu Saga, he also knew it during this movie, had Vegeta been alive he would of saw the fusion dance earlier by the kids. Since he completed his duty on Earth, Baba took his body because he still didn't deserve his body. Goku also stated that Fat Janemba was the strongest Ki he ever felt, Super Janemba > Super Buu after all. +Goku wished all people back that were killed by Majin Buu, Majin Buu didn't kill Vegeta, Vegeta killed himself therefore he didn't get back with the wish. |
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Oct 2 2012, 05:28 AM Post #2 |
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Goku had to teach Vegeta the dance in the movie. If it was after the Buu Saga Vegeta should know it since the boys did it in front of him inside Buu. Goku was dead in the movie but after Buu Saga he already had his life granted back to him from Elder Kai. The only time the two were both dead was in the middle of the saga. Vegeta going to Hell from his fight with Majin Buu and Goku returning shortly after teaching the dance to the boys and Piccolo. Edited by Professor Gohan, Oct 2 2012, 05:31 AM.
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| Kblo247 | Oct 2 2012, 06:31 AM Post #3 |
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Gotenks or Gohan handled business. |
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Oct 2 2012, 01:01 PM Post #4 |
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Yeah, this was supposed to happen after the dispatchuing of fat boo, meaning that super boo never came into existence (possibly) but there is still no evidence that janemba wasnt as strong as boo. Or that boo wasnt modeled after janemba, same type of pupate beginning, same type of ultimate transformation, same kind of ultimate evil. If super janemba was only as strong as kid boo as SOME people like to believe, then goku isnt haxxed like some people claim, but NERFED. Goku couldnt touch Super janemba anymore than paikuan could. if super janemba was only as strong as kid boo then there is no need for goku to defeat kid boo, he should have needed fusion, but gogeta is the original fusion, So apparently TOEI had the one up on toriyama by ONCE AGAIN EXPOSING HIS WORK BEFORE ITS FINISHED and changing it to suit there own purpose. Otherwise this movie makes toriyama look like he ripped it off. |
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Oct 2 2012, 01:32 PM Post #5 |
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I forgot Goku was dead in the movie, it would of made sense if he was alive though, IIRC the kids never showed fusion inside Buu, weren't they unconcious? |
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Oct 2 2012, 04:14 PM Post #6 |
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Gotenks/Gohan handling business doesn't make sense in this scenario unless you consider it all alternate timeline/dimension. |
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Oct 2 2012, 04:16 PM Post #7 |
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They were but Super Buu made some replicas of his own of Trunks, Goten, Piccolo, and Gohan. And the boys did fusion against Vegeta. |
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Oct 2 2012, 04:18 PM Post #8 |
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Grid: so then boo just disappeared? goku didnt get his life back until after elder kai did that, which was after gohans power up. so gohan being there could make sense. if goku killed fat boo, then that means he did him like he did fat janemba, but thats the mystery, how would goku have killed the monster that is boo without making him transform? which is why im thinking that super boo came in as an afterthought for toriyama. A way to continue the story toei had already made. But then again movie 12 had it so that apparently the boys didnt fuse, and gohan never fought fat boo also. Otherwise he wouldnt have been saiya man. So then i guess goku DID handle boo. I smell a RETCON!! Edited by Paikuan extreme, Oct 2 2012, 04:19 PM.
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Oct 2 2012, 04:27 PM Post #9 |
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If Goku killed Fat Boo, then Gotenks wouldn't exist. The only way this movie happens is if Gotenks killed Super Boo, and then Old Kai stopped the ritual on Gohan. I don't think Gohan is Mystic in Movie 12. His hair doesn't match up like it does in Movie 13. |
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Oct 2 2012, 04:29 PM Post #10 |
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He's not. he is still saiyaman. Gotenks fighting fat boo has always been a possibility, but killing him? if goku wasnt sure HE could then how could gotenks? having more energy in your tank for a longer fight, only prolongs the fight, and boo was just getting started. |
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Oct 2 2012, 04:46 PM Post #11 |
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It's possible that SSJ Gotenks killed Fat Boo, no? |
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| + Clearin | Oct 2 2012, 04:54 PM Post #12 |
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He wouldn't know Ghost Kamikaze in that case. I think it works best as SSj3 Gotenks killing Buu. |
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Oct 2 2012, 06:58 PM Post #13 |
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so then super boo WOULD have emerged. meaning that what goku said WAS NOT a lie, janemba was the greatest ki EVER, and he only used ssj3 against boo. so then toei was telling the truth. If ssj3 gotenks killed boo lie he was supposed to, then he fought super boo. and goku would have KNOWN that, so its either a retcon? or ssj3 gotenks killed boo. Meaning that super janemba is STRONGER than boo. |
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| + Clearin | Oct 2 2012, 07:04 PM Post #14 |
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Yeah if SSj3 Gotenks killed Buu then Janemba would be stronger than Super Buu. Doesn't really matter too much imo. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Oct 2 2012, 07:47 PM Post #15 |
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Izanagi!
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No. What if Gotenks killed Super Boo in the RoSaT? Goku wouldn't have sensed either Super Boo's full power or SSJ3 Gotenks. |
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